Lol hey editor is refusing to post comments again.. just as biased and bad as the board is.. no wonder ppl in community and outside of t.l have a negative opinion about this site
Mark, We tried to contact you using the email address you provided but our email to you bounced. You sent a few comments which we felt were disingenuous and not well thought out and yes, we did delete them. We provide information regarding Treasure Lake and opinions from those concerned about Treasure Lake. Based on your comments, this site has provided you with much to think about. Whatever conclusions you draw are yours to enjoy. As an aside, we have received very positive feedback about this site from many people here in Treasure Lake as well as many property owners who do not reside here.
As some of our readers know, the back exit gate is broken. It has been broken for awhile now. Yes, the back exit gate with the vacant guardhouse. Why is this exit lane which can also be used as an entrance lane not being secured. Are we not spending umpteen thousands of dollars to upgrade our entrance by purchasing a new gate system all the while leaving the rear wide open. Can’t you just see all the finger pointing if something happens. Who’s managing this place anyway? Moe, Curley or Larry?
The TLPOA Board of Directors is requesting interested candidates to fill the vacant seat (we understand that there are two vacant seats) for the remainder of the 2018 term which will end at the TLPOA Annual Meeting to be held in July 2018.
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Dear TLT. I have been following your blog for some time now but have never felt the urge to comment. That changed when I read an article regarding Oligarchs. I got to thinking that Treasure Lake is nothing more than a microcosm of the problems we see in the government. You have talked about the bloc vote, you have talked about special interests and you have talked about unaccountability. Many people write and opine their thoughts and often make suggestions. Many people write under a pseudonym, as am I. I am concerned that we have squandered so much money over the years on classical personal pet projects at the expense of the many that there’s no turning back. I am concerned that our assessments are going to keep going up in effect mirroring all of government taxing systems. I can only remember one time when they came down, a pittance of a reduction but they came down. I believe it was three years ago when Shirley made the comment that we didn’t know how cheap we have it, that where she had worked before the rates were a lot higher. I have no idea where she worked before but if it was so good why did she leave? Anyways, here’s a part of the article which I feel resembles our fine community.
Oligarchic rule, as Aristotle pointed out, is a deviant form of government. Oligarchs care nothing for competency, intelligence, honesty, rationality, self-sacrifice or the common good. They pervert, deform and dismantle systems of power to serve their immediate interests, squandering the future for short-term personal gain. “The true forms of government, therefore, are those in which the one, or the few, or the many, govern with a view to the common interest; but governments that rule with a view to the private interest, whether of the one, of the few or of the many, are perversions,” Aristotle wrote. The classicist Peter L.P. Simpson calls these perversions the “sophistry of oligarchs,” meaning that once oligarchs take power, rational, prudent and thoughtful responses to social, economic and political problems are ignored to feed insatiable greed. The late stage of every civilization is characterized by the sophistry of oligarchs, who ravage the decaying carcass of the state.
These deviant forms of government are defined by common characteristics, most of which Aristotle understood. Oligarchs use power and ruling structures solely for personal advancement.
In case you didn’t notice, there is already a steady flow of dump trucks running through TL sub contracted by Aqua, and there are also several buildings in TL that store chemicals, and tools that have trucks, and workers running in and out of them every day. The TL Maintenance Building located by the back gate, the Maintenance building located by the stump dump, and the two Golf Course Maintenance Buildings that store large quantities of chemicals, and fertilizer. There are also several small buildings located around TL that perform the same function of hiding machinery that Aqua is proposing, off the top of my head there is one just before you get to Cayman Landing, and another that hides the water pumps that supply the water for the sprinkler system on the gold golf course.
According to your logic, none of these buildings belongs in any residential neighborhood? Should we move these buildings outside the gates to appease your ideas about what should, and should not be in our community?
As far as subterfuge, and lack of foresight goes, that is exactly how this board operates. Do you have any direct knowledge that it was Aqua who was lacking foresight, and being underhanded? or is this just an assumption on your part?
Basically what your saying is that you agree that our water system needs to be improved as long as they do it from outside the gates because men openly working with tools, and operating trucks, and machinery does not belong in any community.
The bottom line is that the water system needs to be upgraded, Aqua is willing to do it.
Regardless of how you look at it, it’s going to be messy, and noisy while it’s being done. The more obstacles TL puts in their way, the longer it will take.
It is in everyone’s best interest to make this happen, so that it can be done as quickly and painlessly as possible. We need to be flexible with this, or Aqua might just pull out altogether, and leave us to fix our own mess and we have no money to fix it with.
My original point was that people are choosing to oppose things that will actually improve TL, while doing nothing about the things that they should be fighting against.
For far too long Boards, and OMNI have violated bylaws, and DOR in closed sessions to benefit their own special interests, or fund their pet projects while property owners sat by idly as they did it.
The sitting board openly attacked another board member because that person was too outspoken about these types of violations, effectively forcing out any board members (3 so far this year) that did not agree with their views on how TL should be run.
Now, all of a sudden people are speaking out on an issue that really is in the best interests of all TL residents, will not cost TL hundreds of thousands of dollars in liquid assets, and make a vast improvement to TL overall.
Aqua is trying to work with us, and not do anything underhanded. They want to do what is best for TL.
People have got their priorities all twisted around, and are making poor decisions on what needs to be done, and what needs to change in TL
You keep on drinking that dirty water just because no one actually lives in that nice looking house over there, and watch as this board runs TL into bankruptcy.
A Property Owners Association, or POA, is a non-profit organization formed to serve the collective and common interests of the property owners within a designated community. The Association’s governing documents dictate how the community is to be operated and maintained. The governing documents consist of the Declaration of Covenants, Conditions, and Restrictions (CC&Rs), Bylaws, Articles of Incorporation and Policies and Rules adopted by the Association. The purpose of the POA is to care for the common interests shared by all the property owners within the community. The membership of the Association is made up of all of the property owners and exists for the mutual benefit of the collective group of owners. The POA cares for the common areas and common area improvements within the community. In an effort to maintain the quality of the community, the POA also has administrative responsibilities which include, but are not limited to, financial operations and member compliance with the provisions of the POA governing documents and policies. The POA works to ensure that the property owners (the members of the POA) each meet their financial obligations and comply with the provisions of the bylaws, policies and DOR.
Treasure Lake Advocate made the following comment;
Yes Aqua. Thank you for your complicity in violating our Declaration of Restrictions. Funny how this Websites Holier than Thou stance doesn’t extend to an issue they agree with.
Remember that platted lots in Treasure Lake are restricted to building only single, residential homes. Constructing a pump house, that looks like a residential home, is still a violation of the Declaration of Restrictions!! Still wonder which board members, past or present, support the violation of the DoR?
Mustang Sally made the following comment;
We need to protect the rights of ALL property owners period. Even if only 1 Property owner’s home is affected then it’s a resounding no. If it were me and my home which I bought in good faith that the deed of restrictions would be followed, then it should be same for ALL. Residence means RESIDING.. no exceptions.
Most TLPOA residents are aware that Aqua is planning to upgrade their water treatment facility just off of Barbary Coast Court. This upgrade has to have been in the works for sometime now and is finally coming to fruition. With that in mind we support Aqua’s upgrade knowing full well it’s in the best interest of all property owners in Treasure Lake. Thank you Aqua!
There is more than one side to this story. If you were Crown or the Church and you could receive free snow plowing, why wouldn’t you? On the other hand, if you were management of the corporation (TLPOA) providing the free plowing, why would you do it? It is obvious that this has been going on for some time and no one has said anything. It’s also obvious that there are many people who were aware of it who have said nothing. So, the question remains, why would management of the TLPOA provide a free service to two businesses located within Treasure Lake? It’s our opinion that the board should make a public announcement ASAP stating that the practice has been stopped, that restitution has been made and as far as anyone should be concerned, the book is closed on the ordeal.
It’s one thing for management to say that yes, the TLPOA does the plowing and then upon closer examination to change their mind and say that we don’t. It is another thing if we were doing the plowing and then when Mr. Miller questioned it, to do an about face and change their answer. We have to ask, if the plowing was being done, Who authorized it? Is it management? Management is Omni. Who authorized Omni to do this? When did the board vote on approving this? We have absolutely no public record of the board having ever discussed this use of manpower and equipment. How many years have we been plowing for Crown and TLC a.k.a.”the BLOC VOTE”. Do we provide any assistance to incapacitated residents? Assistance to the elderly or the infirmed? Do we plow board members driveways?
First of three editorials
One of the many problems lying just below the surface in Treasure Lake that is beginning to fester publicly and will continue to worsen until it is resolved, is the blatant in your face attitude toward assessment paying property owners on display with the TLPOA plowing parking areas of Crown Resorts and the Treasure Lake Church when we have severe snowfalls. We are using TLPOA manpower and equipment to accomplish the task along with applying either salt or anti-skid to the surface after the plowing is completed. What is going to happen if we damage someones car or worse yet, injure a innocent bystander? What is going to happen if one of our employees has an accident while plowing on these private grounds? What is going to happen if one of our employees hurts themselves while performing these tasks? Apply for workers comp? Are they going to say that they got hurt on the job doing something they weren’t supposed to be doing? Any smart employee who would get hurt while performing this work should have Edgar Snyder’s telephone number on their quick dial.
We at the blog make the following prognosis: “Prognosis, a forecast of the likely outcome of a situation.”
Because of fiscal irresponsibility and lack of foresight by previous boards, which continues, by December of 2018 the board of directors of Treasure Lake, acting as a governing body which is detailed and sanctioned by our bylaws, will only be a memory of what it was intended to be.
We’d like to how you feel about this.